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RE: Question on HPL --- FAILURE IN LOADING TO ....
Posted By: Habichtsberg, Reinhard
Date: Friday, 19 October 2012, at 11:12 a.m.
In Response To: Re: Question on HPL --- FAILURE IN LOADING TO TARG (Kern Doe)
I'm not Art, but I will try to answer anyway.
It seems that you want to load from an external table that is defined on
a remote database that resides on a remote server. In this scenario it
doesn't matter that you are on the same host.
You have inserted the rows into the external table which is defined on
the source server and database? Then you have created an (unload)-file
in the filesystem.
Create the equivalent external table on the target server and database
that uses that (unload)-file. In that case you have no need refer to the
source server and database in the insert statement. Just write:
INSERT INTO target_table SELECT * FROM
external_target_table
Reinhard.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of
Kern
> Doe
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 4:44 PM
> To: ids@iiug.org
> Subject: Re: Question on HPL --- FAILURE IN LOADING TO .... [28583]
>
> Art,
> Your detail notes and experience on RAW TABLE to share are certainly
> appreciated.
> My original topic was "HPL", has become an experiment on raw, and then
now I
> have to ask a question on unrelated or somewhat related topic.
> OK, so yesterday I tried to load those 250 mil rows (from an external
table) into
> the target table of different instance but in the same host, and I ran
into error 908,
> I even tried tcp protocol (which I should not since both instances are
in the same
> box), it crashed the target instance. Any idea?
>
> SQL: New Run Modify Use-editor Output Choose Save Info Drop Exit
Modify the
> current SQL statements using the SQL editor.
> ----------------------- target_db@target_instance --------- Press
CTRL-W for Help ---
> ----- INSERT INTO target_table SELECT * FROM
> source_db@source_instance:external_source_table
>
> 908: Attempt to connect to database server (source_instance) failed.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Art Kagel <art.kagel@gmail.com>
> To: ids@iiug.org
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 8:19 PM
> Subject: Re: Question on HPL [28573]
>
> Kern:
>
> Very important to keep in mind when working with RAW tables:
>
> 1. RAW mode tables do not support PRIMARY or UNIQUE key constraints.
>
> 1. You will have to drop those and recreate them after altering the
>
> table's mode back to "STANDARD".
>
> 2. If those constraints rely on "hidden" indexes (ones whose names
>
> begin with a space) the indexes will have to be rebuild also so this
may
>
> add runtime.
>
> 3. If there are foreign keys on other tables that reference the
>
> dropped constraints, those foreign key constraints will drop as well
and
>
> will have to be recreated which may mean rebuilding the supporting
indexes
>
> on those keys (if the indexes are hidden) and will require that all of
the
>
> keys in the dependent table be re-validated against the table you were
>
> loading.
>
> 4. This means that the total runtime of a load may actually be longer
>
> if you alter it to "RAW" and back to "STANDARD" before you can put the
>
> database back into service.
>
> 2. If you load into a table in "RAW" mode, you have to take a level
>
> zero archive after altering the table back to "STANDARD" mode so that
you
>
> can recover after a hard crash without having to repeat the data load.
>
> Art S. Kagel
> Advanced DataTools (www.advancedatatools.com)
> Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/
>
> Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own
opinions and
> do not reflect on my employer, Advanced DataTools, the IIUG, nor any
other
> organization with which I am associated either explicitly, implicitly,
or by
> inference. Neither do those opinions reflect those of other
individuals affiliated with
> any entity with which I am affiliated nor those of the entities
themselves.
>
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Kern Doe <kern_doe@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I've tried this unloading involved "raw table" -- the result has
blown
> > my mind away.
> > My first test result was 9 minutes to unload 63 mil rows while hpl
> > took about
> > 1 hour.
> > My 2nd test was 38 min for 250mil rows, amazing!! I will test the
load
> > soon.
> >
> > Reinhard, thank you for the script, I haven't tried it, there are
some
> > parts I believe you meant differently, please see my comments.
> > Thank you Reinhard.
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: "Habichtsberg, Reinhard" <RHabichtsberg@arz-emmendingen.de>
> > To: ids@iiug.org
> > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 2:47 AM
> > Subject: RE: Question on HPL [28562]
> >
> > If the tables resp. the unload files will grow too big you may even
> > unload and load using external tables and pipes with no need of
> > storage
> > space:
> >
> > Solaris 10, Informix 11.70.FC5
> > Example shell script:
> > #!/usr/bin/bash
> > # Target table was created in target database and has same schema as
> > source table # Two Informix Server: source_server and target_server,
> > may also work if source_server and target_server and source_database
> > and target_database are the same # FORMAT 'informix' may not work
for
> > tables with byte or text columns
> >
> > # Target table in target database set to type raw due to express
mode:
> > dbaccess target_database@target_server - << EOF alter table
> > target_table type (raw); EOF
> >
> > # Create pipe for loading:
> > mkfifo /tmp/target_table.lo
> >
> > # Create pipe for unloading:
> > mkfifo /tmp/target_table.un
> >
> > # Create external table in target database:
> > dbaccess target_database@target_server - << EOF CREATE EXTERNAL
> TABLE
> > ext_target_table sameas target_table USING (DATAFILES
> > ('PIPE:/tmp/target_table.lo'), FORMAT 'informix', REJECTFILE
> > 'target_database_target_table.log',
> > EXPRESS);
> > EOF
> >
> > # Create external table in source database:
> > dbaccess source_database@source_server - << EOF CREATE EXTERNAL
> TABLE
> > ext_source_table SAMEAS source_table USING (DATAFILES
> > ('PIPE:/tmp/source_table.un'), FORMAT 'informix'); EOF
> >
> > # Open pipe in background:
> > cat > /tmp/$tabelle.lo < /tmp/$tabelle.un &
> >
> > (you probably meant cat > /tmp/target_table.lo <
/tmp/target_table.un
> > &)
> >
> > # Insert Import Command in background:
> > dbaccess target_database@target_Server - <<EOF & insert into
> > target_table select * from ext_target_table; EOF
> >
> > # Sleep 3 seconds
> > sleep 3
> >
> > # Insert Export Command:
> > dbaccess source_database@source_server - <<EOF insert into
> > ext_source_table select * from source_table; EOF
> >
> > echo EXPORT/IMPORT done!
> > # Sleep 5 seconds
> > sleep 5
> >
> > # Clean up
> > dbaccess source_database@source_server - <<EOF drop table
> > ext_source_table; EOF dbaccess target_database@target_Server - <<EOF
> > drop table ext_target_table; EOF
> >
> > echo "drop PIPE:"
> > rm /tmp/ target_table.lo
> > rm /tmp/source_table.un
> >
> > # Set Target Table to type standard
> > dbaccess target_database@target_Server - <<EOF alter table $tabelle
> > type (standard); (you meant target_table?) EOF
> >
> > I scipped the error handling in due of clarity.
> >
> > HTH
> > Reinhard
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf
> > > Of
> > Art
> > > Kagel
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 2:25 AM
> > > To: ids@iiug.org
> > > Subject: Re: Question on HPL [28556]
> > >
> > > You can load using external tables also. Say you have a delimited
> > file, mydata.unl,
> > > that you want to load into a table named mydata. So you define an
> > external table
> > > defined over the file mydata.unl and insert into the normal table
> > select from the
> > > external table. So:
> > >
> > > create external table mydata_unl sameas mydata using (datafiles(
> > > "disk:/some/path/mydata.unl"), format "delimited", delimiter "|"
);
> > >
> > > insert into mydata
> > > select * from mydata_unl;
> > >
> > > Art
> > >
> > > Art S. Kagel
> > > Advanced DataTools (http://www.advancedatatools.com/)
> > > Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/
> > >
> > > Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own
> > opinions and
> > > do not reflect on my employer, Advanced DataTools, the IIUG, nor
any
> > other
> > > organization with which I am associated either explicitly,
> > > implicitly,
> > or by
> > > inference. Neither do those opinions reflect those of other
> > individuals affiliated with
> > > any entity with which I am affiliated nor those of the entities
> > themselves.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Kern Doe <kern_doe@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> > >
> > > > This is great! How would you guys load?
> > > > Would you use dbload or HPL, I know I don't want to use "load
from".
> > > >
> > > > Any way, thank you John/Art, we'll try this tomorrow.
> > > > Kern --
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: John Miller iii <miller3@us.ibm.com>
> > > > To: ids@iiug.org
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 5:09 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Question on HPL [28552]
> > > >
> > > > Here is the syntax for unloading the customer table to 2 files.
> > > >
> > > > CREATE EXTERNAL TABLE 'informix'.EXTcustomer SAMEAS
> > > > 'informix'.customer USING (
> > > >
DATAFILES('DISK:/tmp/customer_1.unl','DISK:/tmp/customer_2.unl'),
> > > > FORMAT 'DELIMITED',
> > > > DELIMITER '|',
> > > > RECORDEND '',
> > > > ESCAPE
> > > > );
> > > >
> > > > INSERT INTO 'informix'.customer
> > > > SELECT * FROM 'informix'.EXTcustomer;
> > > >
> > > > John F. Miller III
> > > > STSM, Embedability Architect
> > > > miller3@us.ibm.com
> > > > 503-578-5645
> > > > IBM Informix Dynamic Server (IDS)
> > > >
> > > > ids-bounces@iiug.org wrote on 10/17/2012 11:54:06 AM:
> > > >
> > > > > From: "Art Kagel" <art.kagel@gmail.com>
> > > > > To: ids@iiug.org,
> > > > > Date: 10/17/2012 11:55 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Question on HPL [28551] Sent by:
> > > > > ids-bounces@iiug.org
> > > > >
> > > > > Note, this is typed off the cuff, so I may have missed a quote
> > > > > or comma somewhere.
> > > > >
> > > > > create external table sometable_ext like sometable using
> > > > > (datafiles("disk:/some/path/file","disk:/other/path/file"));
> > > > >
> > > > > select * from sometable insert into sometable_ext;
> > > > >
> > > > > VOILA!
> > > > >
> > > > > For import, when you create the external table you can add the
> > > > > EXPRESS
> > > > mode
> > > > > attribute and it will load the data the same way that HPL in
> > express
> > > > > mode
> > > >
> > > > > does. You can change the data format from DELIMITED, to
> > > > > INFORMIX,
> > or
> > > > > FIXED. You can change the delimiter for the default delimited
> > format
> > > > > - no
> > > >
> > > > > you can't get rid of the trailing delimiter 8-( - etc. You can
> > write
> > > > > to a
> > > >
> > > > > pipe so the data can be compressed. Check out the description
of
> > > > > CREATE EXTERNAL TABLE in the online or PDF manuals for full
> > details.
> > > > >
> > > > > Art
> > > > >
> > > > > Art S. Kagel
> > > > > Advanced DataTools (http://www.advancedatatools.com/)
> > > > > Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my
own
> > > > > opinions and do not reflect on my employer, Advanced
DataTools,
> > the
> > > > > IIUG, nor any other organization with which I am associated
> > > > > either explicitly, implicitly, or by inference. Neither do
those
> > > > > opinions reflect those of other individuals affiliated with
any
> > > > > entity with which I am affiliated
> > > > nor
> > > > > those of the entities themselves.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Kern Doe <kern_doe@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > This is getting more interesting. Do you have a simple
sample
> > > > > > codes involved unload/load with external tables? I tried HPL
> > > > > > unload yesterday on 63
> > > > mil
> > > > > > rows
> > > > > > tables, it took 1hr15min and already happy about it,
anything
> > else
> > > > > > I
> > > > can
> > > > > > do to
> > > > > > improve further the speed and the flexibility, I'm all for
it.
> > > > > > Thanks Art.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > From: Art Kagel <art.kagel@gmail.com>
> > > > > > To: ids@iiug.org
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 1:19 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Question on HPL [28546]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > FYI, if you have 11.50 or later, you can use external tables
> > > > > > for the
> > > > unload
> > > > > > and it is at least as fast as HPL. Then the select to filter
> > > > > > the data being written into the external table would be
trivial.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Art
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Art S. Kagel
> > > > > > Advanced DataTools (http://www.advancedatatools.com/)
> > > > > > Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my
> > > > > > own
> > > > opinions
> > > > > > and do not reflect on my employer, Advanced DataTools, the
> > > > > > IIUG, nor
> > > > any
> > > > > > other organization with which I am associated either
> > > > > > explicitly, implicitly, or by inference. Neither do those
> > > > > > opinions reflect those of
> > > >
> > > > > > other individuals affiliated with any entity with which I am
> > > > > > affiliated
> > > > nor
> > > > > > those of the entities themselves.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Kern Doe
<kern_doe@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dear HPL experts,
> > > > > > > I create a simple HPL unload, it works fast, and it
> > > > > > > basically dumps
> > > > the
> > > > > > > entire
> > > > > > > table. Is there way I can customize HPL unload for
selected
> > > > > > > data, for
> > > >
> > > > > > > example,
> > > > > > > "customer_id < 2000000" ?
> > > > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > > > > Kern --
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