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Re: Informix on HP MoonShot

Posted By: Art Kagel
Date: Tuesday, 30 September 2014, at 11:01 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Informix on HP MoonShot (Fernando Nunes)

Counting 90 because you can put 4 units in a rack each holding 45 m400
modules. With two units holdint primary servers and two holdinh HDR
secondaries that's 90 HDR pairs per rack.

Art
On Sep 30, 2014 9:54 AM, "Fernando Nunes" <domusonline@gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't think this is very relevant, but from what I read m400 allows 45
> cartridges. Each has 8 cores. You're counting 90 instead of 45...
> And I'm not sure if one can fill the m400 just with these types of
> cartridges or if we have to include others like power supplies and
> networking switches.
>
> In any case it would be a lot of CPUs. Point is, how slow they are compared
> to more usual inhabitants of the datacenter...
>
> Regards.
>
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Art Kagel <art.kagel@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > To all:
> >
> > FYI, I just found out that the M400 module for the MoonShot sports an
> > Applied Micro X-Gene 64bit ARM processor which has 8 cores, not 4 as I
> > originally thought. So not 720 cores per server farm, but 1,440 processor
> > cores! I don't even want to THINK about what the IDS license cost for
> that
> > beast would cost even it would be rated at 50 PVU/core (IBM has not yet
> > published its PVU ratings for the ARM processors), but if you need the
> > scaleability and raw horsepower, <expletive deleted> this is the dragon
> to
> > ride!
> >
> > Art
> >
> > Art S. Kagel, President and Principal Consultant
> > ASK Database Management
> >
> > Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/
> >
> > Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions
> > and do not reflect on the IIUG, nor any other organization with which I
> am
> > associated either explicitly, implicitly, or by inference. Neither do
> > those opinions reflect those of other individuals affiliated with any
> > entity with which I am affiliated nor those of the entities themselves.
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Art Kagel <art.kagel@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Fernando:
> > >
> > > ARM 64bit processors are 100% compatible with ARM 32bit software
> > according
> > > to the ARM and AM (the only current producer of 64bit ARM processors)
> web
> > > sights.
> > >
> > > That said, a 64bit port would be nice. Maybe for 12.10.FC5?
> > >
> > > Art
> > >
> > > Art S. Kagel, President and Principal Consultant
> > > ASK Database Management
> > >
> > > Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/
> > >
> > > Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own
> opinions
> > > and do not reflect on the IIUG, nor any other organization with which I
> > am
> > > associated either explicitly, implicitly, or by inference. Neither do
> > > those opinions reflect those of other individuals affiliated with any
> > > entity with which I am affiliated nor those of the entities themselves.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Fernando Nunes <domusonline@gmail.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Naturally IBM/IIUG should make a statement... But I hope you trust HP
> > own
> > > > words:
> > > >
> > > > http://www8.hp.com/us/en/hp-news/press-release.html?id=1800094
> > > >
> > > > And you can actually download the port for ARM 32 bits from IBM's
> > > > FixCentral site.
> > > > The announced servers have both 32bit and 64bit versions. Honestly I
> > > don't
> > > > know if the 32bit port runs on the 64bit systems.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 1:39 PM, RICHARD KOFLER <
> > > richard.kofler@chello.at>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > [ German text in the first link ]
> > > > >
> > > > > About the HP Proliant m400 (and other) Moonshot servers:
> > > > >
> > > > > There is an article on Heise (heise.de):
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/HP-verkauft-Moonshot-Server-mit-64-Bit-ARM-SoC-2405160.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Heise writes:
> > > > > .... Doch es soll wohl auch IBM Informix als Datenbank angeboten
> > > werden.
> > > > > ...
> > > > >
> > > > > This translates into
> > > > > ' that as a database IBM INFORMIX might be offered ' -
> > > > > BUT this is written in subjunctive form, it doesn't count as
> > statement.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is also an article about the Moonshots on theregister.co.uk:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/09/29/hp_takes_another_crack_at_arm_servers_with_moonshot_rollout/
> > > > >
> > > > > but INFORMIX is not mentioned there.
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe IBM or the IIUG has a statement for the press ...?
> > > > >
> > > > > dic_k
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> > > > --
> > > > Fernando Nunes
> > > > Portugal
> > > >
> > > > http://informix-technology.blogspot.com
> > > > My email works... but I don't check it frequently...
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Messages In This Thread

• Informix on HP MoonShot
  Art Kagel -- Tuesday, 30 September 2014, at 7:53 a.m.
  • Re: Informix on HP MoonShot
    RICHARD KOFLER -- Tuesday, 30 September 2014, at 8:39 a.m.
    • Re: Informix on HP MoonShot
      Fernando Nunes -- Tuesday, 30 September 2014, at 8:54 a.m.
      • Re: Informix on HP MoonShot
        Art Kagel -- Tuesday, 30 September 2014, at 9:11 a.m.
        • Re: Informix on HP MoonShot
          Art Kagel -- Tuesday, 30 September 2014, at 9:19 a.m.
          • Re: Informix on HP MoonShot
            Fernando Nunes -- Tuesday, 30 September 2014, at 9:53 a.m.
            • Re: Informix on HP MoonShot
              Art Kagel -- Tuesday, 30 September 2014, at 11:01 a.m.
            • Re: Informix on HP MoonShot
              Art Kagel -- Tuesday, 30 September 2014, at 11:04 a.m.
        • Re: Informix on HP MoonShot
          Andreas Breitfeld -- Tuesday, 30 September 2014, at 10:30 a.m.
          • Re: Informix on HP MoonShot
            Art Kagel -- Tuesday, 30 September 2014, at 11:06 a.m.

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