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Re: AW: How to check informix DB bottlenecks

Posted By: Art Kagel
Date: Tuesday, 2 March 2010, at 7:02 a.m.

In Response To: Re: AW: How to check informix DB bottlenecks (JACK PAPA)

Haven't done the calculations formally, just eyeballing them, but your RAU
is a bit low ~90% and you are seeing about 7% of your queries running
sequential scans. The latter is a bit high and may indicate missing indexes
or stale data distributions (or may just be that your queries hit lots of
small lookup tables). What are your typical checkpoint times when someone's
complaining?

Art

Art S. Kagel
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IIUG Board of Directors (art@iiug.org)

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On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 4:37 AM, JACK PAPA <informix2009@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am using IDS 9.4, AIX 5.4.
>
> onstat -p shows
>
> => onstat -p
>
> IBM Informix Dynamic Server Version 9.40.UC6 -- On-Line (Prim) -- Up 23
> days
> 15:06:08 -- 2251504 Kbytes
>
> Profile
> dskreads pagreads bufreads %cached dskwrits pagwrits bufwrits %cached
> 1220612817 3198664750 2251555606 45.79 34109654 100095460 2062133360 98.35
>
> isamtot open start read write rewrite delete commit rollbk
> 2936740675 208936934 1093068317 2477580096 1270145450 25498127 26444677
> 3868723 1868
>
> gp_read gp_write gp_rewrt gp_del gp_alloc gp_free gp_curs
> 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
>
> ovlock ovuserthread ovbuff usercpu syscpu numckpts flushes
> 0 0 0 723695.11 86056.10 8699 17400
>
> bufwaits lokwaits lockreqs deadlks dltouts ckpwaits compress seqscans
> 51876197 7247 1280409663 57 0 12432 6247517 15715161
>
> ixda-RA idx-RA da-RA RA-pgsused lchwaits
> 85766244 103708265 208434932 366985387 3557149
>
> -------------------------
> This is the onstat -u output.
>
> 90291c30 ---P--- 12 informix - 0 0 0 0 34
> 90292248 ---P--B 13 informix - 0 0 0 392183594 777296
> 90292860 Y--P--D 15 informix - 908b4540 0 0 30027 8701
> 90292e78 ---P--D 35290 informix - 0 0 0 0 0
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> 902946d8 ---P--D 20 informix - 0 0 0 0 8
> 90295308 Y--P--- 25 patrol - 913b0a18 0 16 54299002 1142837
> 90295920 Y--P--D 26 informix - 4008f12c 0 0 0 0
> 90296550 Y-AP--M 106804 informix - 93b6a888 0 0 29 24
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> a1312c48 Y--P--- 103042 user1 0 930b16a8 0 1 89 2889
> a13144a8 Y--P--- 102589 user1 Server01 91c43c98 0 1 694 161
> a13150d8 Y--P--- 103616 user1 Server01 933584c8 0 1 0 7
> a13156f0 Y--P--- 76572 user001 - 9377a018 0 1 0 0
> a1315d08 Y--P--- 105784 user1 Server01 91c43388 0 1 0 103
> a1316320 Y--P--- 106636 user1 0 9fb54ce8 0 7 198 63
> a1317568 Y--P--- 103620 user1 Server01 9f949d38 0 1 4450 2320
> a1317b80 Y--P--- 104817 user1 Server01 9364e8d8 0 1 0 12
> a13193e0 Y--P--- 106132 user1 Server01 97cb4fb8 0 1 0 111
> a131a010 Y--P--- 104936 user1 Server01 9f8c43d8 0 1 4860 13913
> a131b258 Y--P--- 89712 user005 2 93b57bf8 0 1 968 84
> a131c4a0 Y--P--- 105604 user1 Server01 93c14248 0 1 1899 1001
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