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Re: Resident memory size vs. Virtual memory size
Posted By: FRANK
Date: Thursday, 10 January 2013, at 12:40 p.m.
In Response To: Re: Resident memory size vs. Virtual memory size (Fernando Nunes)
The following is the output of onstat -g mem, it sounds pool: dictpool has
a excessive virtual memory consumption ( around 3GB?),
dictpool V 13f5bc040 3083149312 22008
1505143 12
Any idea why " dictpool" is such a big consumer of Virtual segments?
Thanks,
Frank
[informix@maggie ~]$ onstat -g mem
IBM Informix Dynamic Server Version 11.50.FC8 -- On-Line -- Up 42 days
19:52:04 -- 8130128 Kbytes
Pool Summary:
name class addr totalsize freesize
#allocfrag #freefrag
CDRGeval8 V 140e89040 147456 26776
92 18
CDRD_40754 V 22ef87040 159744 40584
197 40
CDRD_40763 V 22f947040 159744 43480
183 42
CDRD_40772 V 22fcc4040 135168 34736
178 38
afpool V 13e270040 307200 246576
118 108
tpcpool V 13f5c6040 98304 7912
88 7
grprUpLinks V 140471040 4096 808
1 1
CDRGeval9 V 140eef040 147456 27688
91 18
CDRD_40764 V 22f359040 155648 36664
197 38
CDRD_40773 V 22e434040 159744 43408
183 40
CDRD_40765 V 22f92a040 159744 40568
197 44
seqpool V 13f602040 4096 736
2 1
CDRD_40757 V 22e75b040 159744 40184
203 39
pnlpool V 13f5c9040 90112 3288
82 3
grouper V 14046f040 5791744 2417656
40423 4556
CDRD_40758 V 230e7c040 155648 36272
199 40
sbtlist V 13e617040 20480 7200
4 3
sqcrypto V 13ec84040 4096 464
2 1
dstpool V 13f5c5040 2027520 175528
1723 108
CDRD_40768 V 22ec07040 159744 40760
197 42
CDRGtx23320 V 22c680040 4096 808
1 1
CDRD_40769 V 2285af040 159744 43424
183 39
ampool V 13f5f8040 8192 3464
17 1
shmcon M 21028a040 1085440 4864
2 2
main_loop() V 13f882040 352256 17968
64 22
sb_delundoq V 13e649040 49152 8752
4 3
XTF_mem V 13f659040 716800 6632
4 3
61*O0 V 14313f040 4096 808
1 1
6103734*O0 V 1a0fa2040 4096 808
1 1
22700700 V 223ec1040 155648 52248
246 34
EXE.37.91 V 22d942040 4096 616
4 1
EXE.37.91 V 22bda9040 4096 680
3 1
EXE.37.91 V 22a441040 12288 3584
57 1
37*O0 V 14055d040 4096 808
1 1
22700701 V 223e5a040 159744 57272
236 37
38*O0 V 14328f040 4096 808
1 1
22700702 V 222a82040 155648 52416
246 38
22815110 V 22a6f9040 196608 45184
246 35
EXE.38.92 V 22a378040 4096 744
2 1
EXE.38.92 V 22b937040 4096 680
3 1
EXE.38.92 V 22cb41040 4096 544
5 1
EXE.38.92 V 22ff36040 4096 360
8 1
39*O0 V 142416040 4096 808
1 1
bf_prioswee V 1424b3040 28672 3104
13 3
22700703 V 2242ff040 143360 45544
234 34
CDRGtx23398 V 22df70040 4096 808
1 1
16020616 V 1dd217040 102400 25008
113 20
22700704 V 222476040 139264 42016
229 39
EXE.39.93 V 22ac27040 4096 680
3 1
EXE.39.93 V 227f7c040 4096 744
2 1
EXE.39.93 V 229f58040 4096 544
5 1
EXE.39.93 V 22ecf0040 4096 360
8 1
6103659*O0 V 1a18dc040 4096 808
1 1
22700705 V 222784040 151552 54352
229 42
20580270 V 19fcf8040 98304 21072
113 19
22700670 V 14813a040 159744 55704
256 40
22700706 V 223d60040 139264 41736
234 34
18506302 V 1e5b1f040 12288 416
16 1
22700671 V 211e70040 167936 65008
241 38
22700680 V 14d372040 151552 48016
251 36
22700707 V 22482a040 118784 33152
174 28
22700672 V 212b1e040 151552 37944
259 24
22700681 V 2131b5040 163840 60440
251 36
SES.37.91 V 1405ba040 8192 3736
3 2
3546871*O0 V 1776e7040 4096 808
1 1
16023834 V 1f7da1040 98304 21072
113 19
22523076 V 22828a040 151552 62528
146 38
22664016 V 22974d040 12288 416
16 1
22700682 V 217aea040 155648 52064
251 36
22700718 V 2268e6040 143360 45528
234 33
22731363 V 22bfca040 258048 138360
294 71
22815036 V 22aed5040 196608 51008
247 36
3546881*O0 V 1521f7040 4096 808
1 1
22700683 V 218703040 147456 49872
234 36
22815118 V 22cfa5040 196608 51968
247 35
SES.38.92 V 1425d0040 8192 3736
3 2
4076658*O0 V 182c5b040 4096 808
1 1
4076766*O0 V 17895f040 4096 808
1 1
20580734 V 19d820040 98304 21040
113 18
22700684 V 219f76040 151552 53816
234 40
22849211 V 22e0ce040 196608 51968
247 35
3546874*O0 V 174dba040 4096 808
1 1
3546883*O0 V 184ac8040 4096 808
1 1
3546892*O0 V 179a4a040 4096 808
1 1
22700685 V 21c60c040 143360 45472
234 38
userlbacpoo V 13f5cd040 8192 3288
2 2
SES.39.93 V 142b8f040 8192 3736
3 2
3546875*O0 V 1784dd040 4096 808
1 1
9645923*O0 V 1dc2dc040 4096 808
1 1
22700686 V 21e362040 147456 49320
239 37
22815832 V 22c60c040 102400 33088
124 19
22875106 V 22edf4040 233472 68624
369 54
22887211 V 22feaa040 126976 33608
200 36
22887310 V 194d09040 126976 40320
171 36
3546876*O0 V 191bf0040 4096 808
1 1
3546885*O0 V 179048040 4096 808
1 1
19460453 V 1b1400040 192512 46600
246 36
22700687 V 21f684040 139264 41488
234 33
22887311 V 22dd82040 122880 35840
172 34
22695612 V 22b1f5040 274432 153072
314 73
22764516 V 228c0e040 204800 53120
247 37
22884351 V 230307040 196608 51968
247 35
22887303 V 22fc07040 135168 48416
172 38
22887312 V 22eea2040 126976 39888
172 39
22887510 V 22751d040 200704 81712
247 44
PRP.37.91 V 140556040 4096 408
3 1
16657090 V 1c9f79040 98304 20992
113 19
22843807 V 22c55b040 249856 44192
356 37
22868242 V 22ff7d040 229376 64304
369 57
22880464 V 231c4d040 122880 40112
126 34
22881058 V 2300e1040 114688 34704
122 30
22883182 V 22fe6f040 192512 47952
246 40
22886107 V 22f6f6040 106496 17784
154 20
22887313 V 22b1ae040 122880 35920
172 31
22700699 V 21e5e9040 155648 52472
246 35
22841558 V 22faec040 114688 30912
142 23
22883174 V 231054040 196608 51968
247 35
22885163 V 22fa37040 172032 34888
283 40
22887314 V 22fe90040 122880 35840
172 33
PRP.38.92 V 14039d040 4096 408
3 1
CDRRTBClean V 141c57040 118784 31000
87 17
22815099 V 22d31a040 196608 50368
247 36
22883535 V 22f3a7040 98304 21576
109 17
22884336 V 22b7c8040 196608 50368
247 36
22885038 V 22ee96040 184320 79288
210 48
22885164 V 229212040 241664 111112
303 56
22887315 V 22ad40040 126976 39952
172 36
22887405 V 22e111040 192512 73640
247 43
22887423 V 22e9f9040 167936 54528
214 43
22808764 V 22fd2a040 270336 149848
299 76
22876138 V 22f6dc040 102400 30488
144 22
22885255 V 22f557040 106496 17856
154 20
22887253 V 22d9d4040 126976 33952
200 36
22887316 V 22c2b7040 122880 35824
172 29
22887415 V 2298bd040 135168 47392
177 37
PRP.39.93 V 1403c9040 4096 408
3 1
22866581 V 22c957040 106496 29272
114 21
22883483 V 22e286040 167936 30872
283 39
22885256 V 2289f3040 167936 30968
283 34
22887173 V 23010a040 131072 37896
200 35
22887317 V 22f347040 122880 35792
172 32
22887425 V 22fae2040 143360 48432
213 48
17683365 V 1b2b10040 307200 45880
324 45
22883169 V 22c030040 196608 50368
247 36
22887246 V 22e331040 131072 37928
200 37
22887318 V 22e77d040 126976 40696
170 34
22796950 V 22c2d1040 147456 52032
199 45
22887292 V 22ef95040 167936 54264
214 51
cdrRQM V 14081d040 962560 309464
197 112
CDRGeval10 V 140f56040 147456 26992
91 18
11828786 V 20618a040 86016 6472
81 11
22780778 V 22d122040 204800 53008
247 38
22885088 V 228a72040 106496 19800
152 20
22885277 V 23026b040 172032 34896
283 39
22887284 V 22f3fe040 167936 54248
214 52
CDRGeval11 V 140fbc040 147456 26984
91 20
22868727 V 22fce7040 159744 71672
135 38
22887276 V 22d147040 122880 29928
200 35
22887285 V 22b660040 167936 54272
214 49
22887762 V 228594040 12288 416
16 1
onmode_mon V 140280040 28672 3104
13 3
CDRGeval12 V 141022040 147456 29320
85 18
sblo per-st V 156484040 12288 864
6 2
sblo per-st V 154619040 12288 992
5 2
sblo per-st V 1543ad040 12288 992
5 2
sblo per-st V 154b46040 12288 864
6 2
sblo per-st V 1527ef040 12288 864
6 2
sblo per-st V 15255e040 12288 992
5 2
sblo per-st V 154ec5040 12288 992
5 2
sblo per-st V 204909040 12288 864
6 2
sblo per-st V 2039fd040 12288 608
8 2
sblo per-st V 2039ea040 12288 992
5 2
sblo per-st V 1f8638040 12288 992
5 2
22885288 V 22f034040 102400 29904
139 23
22887655 V 22ce95040 147456 45712
219 38
22887709 V 22c845040 155648 54016
219 44
22887754 V 2269b4040 106496 32512
147 26
CDRGeval13 V 141089040 147456 27032
91 19
22797476 V 22d5fc040 131072 42040
169 33
22885289 V 22fffc040 167936 30824
283 37
22887566 V 22876e040 155648 53344
221 43
22884669 V 22db42040 12288 416
16 1
lgflushpool V 140021040 8192 3320
9 2
22887758 V 2265fb040 147456 45776
219 38
2 V 13f905040 12288 416
16 1
rsam V 13e6ec040 501370880 1412480
16386 570
sscpool0 V 13f5bb040 12288 1024
2 2
3 V 13f961040 12288 416
16 1
4 V 13f9bd040 12288 416
16 1
compr cache V 13ec82040 8192 4008
8 1
5 V 13fa19040 12288 416
16 1
6 V 13fa75040 12288 416
16 1
7 V 13facf040 16384 2872
22 3
CDRCparse V 1406ec040 1789952 105280
1491 362
CDRACK_0 V 1407ec040 94208 7544
95 10
8 V 13fb35040 16384 2872
22 3
aslogflush V 140063040 28672 3104
13 3
CDRACK_1 V 1407e6040 98304 11512
96 12
aio V 13ec80040 22376448 1578056
3361 758
CDRDTCleane V 140833040 69632 5312
65 5
CDRACK_2 V 147dd9040 94208 7552
95 10
opcinstpool V 13f5c8040 8192 1240
4 2
CDRACK_3 V 14a3ff040 94208 7520
95 10
dbausrpool V 13f609040 8192 2648
18 2
CDRACK_4 V 146134040 94208 7536
95 11
22700700*O0 V 228130040 4096 808
1 1
CDRACK_5 V 149be0040 94208 7552
95 10
22700701*O0 V 226c29040 4096 808
1 1
CDRACK_6 V 147c5a040 94208 7528
95 11
22700702*O0 V 2275f7040 4096 808
1 1
22815110*O0 V 22d790040 4096 808
1 1
22700703*O0 V 227321040 4096 808
1 1
16020616*O0 V 1d7441040 4096 808
1 1
CDRNrA23 V 1c2e89040 98304 3800
105 9
22700704*O0 V 22793a040 4096 808
1 1
22700705*O0 V 226c84040 4096 808
1 1
ddr_snoopy V 141d29040 28672 3040
14 3
20580270*O0 V 19f4f2040 4096 808
1 1
22700670*O0 V 2269ec040 4096 808
1 1
22700706*O0 V 227d0a040 4096 808
1 1
22700671*O0 V 22a0f1040 4096 808
1 1
22700680*O0 V 221c60040 4096 808
1 1
22700707*O0 V 2277bd040 4096 808
1 1
11844161*O0 V 201475040 4096 808
1 1
22700672*O0 V 227f30040 4096 808
1 1
22700681*O0 V 220840040 4096 808
1 1
16023834*O0 V 1cfad3040 4096 808
1 1
22700682*O0 V 2237b1040 4096 808
1 1
22700718*O0 V 22a2b8040 4096 808
1 1
22731363*O0 V 22c794040 4096 808
1 1
22815036*O0 V 22c4fa040 4096 808
1 1
22523076*O0 V 22ecc5040 4096 808
1 1
22700683*O0 V 2237b3040 4096 808
1 1
22815118*O0 V 22e20f040 4096 808
1 1
smartblob V 13e616040 106496 10608
32 23
gls V 13f5b8040 36864 2416
348 4
20580734*O0 V 19ab1a040 4096 808
1 1
22700684*O0 V 2225f0040 4096 808
1 1
22849211*O0 V 22d2f0040 4096 808
1 1
22700685*O0 V 222792040 4096 808
1 1
22700686*O0 V 223173040 4096 808
1 1
22815832*O0 V 22d433040 4096 808
1 1
22875106*O0 V 231cf3040 4096 808
1 1
22887211*O0 V 22dbc6040 4096 808
1 1
22887310*O0 V 22ead0040 4096 808
1 1
19460453*O0 V 1ae20d040 4096 808
1 1
22700687*O0 V 22319e040 4096 808
1 1
22887311*O0 V 22f4c9040 4096 808
1 1
res-buff0 R 5fed8040 2457624576 4864
2 2
policypool V 13f5cc040 8192 3288
2 2
22695612*O0 V 22b7a3040 4096 808
1 1
22764516*O0 V 2286ae040 4096 808
1 1
22884351*O0 V 23007b040 4096 808
1 1
22887303*O0 V 22dafc040 4096 808
1 1
22887312*O0 V 22fc4b040 4096 808
1 1
22887510*O0 V 228a68040 4096 808
1 1
DefConvWrit V 13f655040 16384 2776
102 1
16657090*O0 V 1d66a5040 4096 808
1 1
22843807*O0 V 22df13040 4096 808
1 1
22868242*O0 V 22deb5040 4096 808
1 1
22880464*O0 V 2319ed040 4096 808
1 1
22881058*O0 V 22f7ef040 4096 808
1 1
22883182*O0 V 230906040 4096 808
1 1
22886107*O0 V 22f1fa040 4096 808
1 1
22887313*O0 V 22fe12040 4096 808
1 1
22700699*O0 V 228184040 4096 808
1 1
22841558*O0 V 22ef4f040 4096 808
1 1
22883174*O0 V 2308c8040 4096 808
1 1
22885163*O0 V 22e807040 4096 808
1 1
22887314*O0 V 22f2ed040 4096 808
1 1
res-buff3 R f269e040 1228824576 4864
2 2
proxyWrite V 13e60c040 40960 2976
2 2
sysprocpool V 13f60a040 8192 2960
6 2
22815099*O0 V 22d166040 4096 808
1 1
22883535*O0 V 22fc69040 4096 808
1 1
22884336*O0 V 22fc64040 4096 808
1 1
22885038*O0 V 22ea12040 4096 808
1 1
22885164*O0 V 22f664040 4096 808
1 1
22887315*O0 V 22f7b9040 4096 808
1 1
22887405*O0 V 229d71040 4096 808
1 1
22887423*O0 V 22ab22040 4096 808
1 1
resroutpool V 13f5cb040 45056 2264
39 3
22808764*O0 V 22fd28040 4096 808
1 1
22876138*O0 V 22efb2040 4096 808
1 1
22885255*O0 V 22fd75040 4096 808
1 1
22887253*O0 V 22fd7c040 4096 808
1 1
22887316*O0 V 22fa8c040 4096 808
1 1
22887415*O0 V 22f7f1040 4096 808
1 1
btscanner_0 V 14013e040 94208 18224
38 10
periodic V 140875040 28672 3040
14 3
22866581*O0 V 22fe0a040 4096 808
1 1
22883483*O0 V 22f457040 4096 808
1 1
22885256*O0 V 22e6c1040 4096 808
1 1
22887173*O0 V 22f3fb040 4096 808
1 1
22887317*O0 V 22fefa040 4096 808
1 1
22887425*O0 V 22ecb4040 4096 808
1 1
btscanner_1 V 14021c040 94208 18208
38 10
17683365*O0 V 1afe55040 4096 808
1 1
22883169*O0 V 22ec97040 4096 808
1 1
22887246*O0 V 22fc71040 4096 808
1 1
22887318*O0 V 2301fe040 4096 808
1 1
22796950*O0 V 22f862040 4096 808
1 1
22887292*O0 V 22fa9c040 4096 808
1 1
CDRNsT22 V 1fee18040 102400 18000
97 14
22780778*O0 V 22cbaa040 4096 808
1 1
22885088*O0 V 22cea9040 4096 808
1 1
22885277*O0 V 2301e2040 4096 808
1 1
22887284*O0 V 22f4d5040 4096 808
1 1
22868727*O0 V 22d81a040 4096 808
1 1
22887276*O0 V 22fae1040 4096 808
1 1
22887285*O0 V 230274040 4096 808
1 1
22885288*O0 V 22f795040 4096 808
1 1
22887655*O0 V 22e7d3040 4096 808
1 1
22887709*O0 V 22f403040 4096 808
1 1
22887754*O0 V 228e08040 4096 808
1 1
CDRGfan V 140b00040 90112 7144
75 13
22797476*O0 V 22fbd7040 4096 808
1 1
22885289*O0 V 22f5ff040 4096 808
1 1
22887566*O0 V 230354040 4096 808
1 1
smx V 13f5b3040 16384 1664
10 2
22887758*O0 V 22a044040 4096 808
1 1
CDR V 140680040 2043904 1160688
2803 502
sb_delq V 13e61c040 57344 1792
239 1
DDR V 1415ee040 7602176 2737576
7705 1389
resident R 46eda040 419422208 2816
2 2
dictpool V 13f5bc040 3083149312 22008
1505143 12
mt V 13e271040 20688896 4530280
58321 4417
10 V 13fbdc040 12288 416
16 1
11 V 13fc32040 16384 2872
22 3
13 V 13fcda040 16384 2872
22 3
CDRSchedMgr V 140823040 28672 3040
14 3
6103734 V 1a4d30040 77824 15128
97 11
aggpool V 13f5ca040 8192 3288
2 2
37 V 1402a0040 544768 159536
392 50
grprBlLinks V 140472040 4096 808
1 1
38 V 1402c4040 491520 90208
496 51
39 V 1405e4040 487424 84504
517 57
procpool V 13f5c0040 1032192 11584
1001 21
6103659 V 1a1da7040 98304 4304
147 8
extdpool V 13f603040 8192 1784
9 2
global V 13e25f040 371630080 301234512
13077 3105
3546871 V 1878e5040 98304 21072
113 19
3546881 V 1784dc040 98304 21072
113 19
ctcpool V 13f5c7040 126976 18648
103 12
tmxapool V 13f608040 4096 680
3 1
4076658 V 18d946040 126976 42864
131 37
4076766 V 1741bf040 131072 46920
131 37
3546874 V 179bc0040 98304 21072
113 19
3546883 V 179a50040 98304 21072
113 19
3546892 V 15611c040 98304 21072
113 19
sb_arcspace V 13e6e6040 8192 1448
6 2
3546875 V 18b701040 98304 21072
113 19
9645923 V 1dfde1040 98304 21040
113 18
3546876 V 175ce2040 98304 21072
113 19
3546885 V 1829bc040 98304 21072
113 19
sb_loheader V 13e67b040 282624 6528
413 57
RSS V 13f896040 188416 3768
507 43
rascron V 140506040 1847296 1196152
516 819
CDRGeval0 V 140b65040 147456 27872
90 20
CDRD_40701 V 22f09a040 196608 48216
293 56
inhpool V 13f5fa040 8192 224
51 1
CDRGeval1 V 140bc6040 143360 24448
86 16
CDRGeval2 V 140c28040 147456 27064
91 18
CDRGeval3 V 140c8a040 147456 26752
92 19
CDRM_Monito V 1407ee040 28672 3040
14 3
opcpool V 13f5f9040 8192 1720
34 1
CDRGeval4 V 140cf1040 147456 27040
91 17
CDRD_40714 V 22ec59040 225280 60960
358 69
CDRGeval5 V 140d57040 147456 27176
90 16
CDRNr22 V 20319e040 102400 6728
105 14
CDRD_40706 V 22f97d040 233472 69640
350 75
CDRGeval6 V 140dbd040 147456 26800
92 18
CDRGeval7 V 140e23040 147456 26752
92 18
CDRD_40762 V 22fa61040 155648 39360
183 43
CDRD_40771 V 230248040 135168 34696
178 42
Blkpool Summary:
name class addr size #blks
mt V 13e273a00 14188544 200
global V 13e26d9c8 0 0
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Fernando Nunes <domusonline@gmail.com>wrote:
> For the record, "my personal record" means the worst situation I've seen as
> a DBA... It was not caused by me! :)
> But it's really "easy" to happen because Java applications tend to use
> persistent connections, so this kind of situations get more visibility...
>
> As for your personal situation, recent versions would probably avoid
> that... (FULL_DISK_INIT)
>
> On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 6:36 PM, rroussey@comcast.net
> <rroussey@comcast.net>wrote:
>
> > We all look back and chuckle at mistakes and discoveries that had us
> > sweating
> > bullets at the time.
> > "My personal record"....... I laughed out loud! I once wiped out an
> entire
> > development instance by not setting the IFX environment correctly.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Fernando Nunes" <domusonline@gmail.com>
> > To: ids@iiug.org
> > Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 5:17:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: Resident memory size vs. Virtual memory size [29180]
> >
> > Besides the locks... which is a frequent cause until IBM fixes the issue
> > and implements a limit per session, if you use Java in your applications
> > run:
> >
> > onstat -g ses | sort -nk 7
> >
> > and look at the last sessions... memory usage column... I'm mentioning
> > Java, but it can happen with any language... It's just more frequent with
> > Java and persistent sessions... sometimes the programmers miss the point
> of
> > preparing the statement and put the prepare inside the loops (or use
> > methods that implicitly make a prepare).
> > My "personal" record was 1.5GB in a session... But if it gets that far
> > you'll notice a great performance degradation.
> > Anyway, worth the checking....
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:02 PM, MARK JALKIEWICZ <
> > mark.jalkiewicz@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> > > more sessions = more work = more locks = which means more memory needed
> > for
> > > those locks.
> > >
> > > look in the msg log and you should see "dynamically allocating more
> > locks "
> > > (or similiar) if that is the case. But I have to say that 4 gigs is
> alot
> > so
> > > check $ONCONFIG paramater "shmadd" , there may be an extra 0 tacked on
> > the
> > > end. As a FYI every time there is a dynamic allocation of memory it is
> > > recorded in the messags log so you should be able to quickly decipher
> the
> > > circumstance surrounding the dynamic allocation.
> > >
> > > Mark
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