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Re: New security check?

Posted By: Paul Watson
Date: Friday, 11 August 2017, at 8:53 a.m.

In Response To: Re: New security check? (Art Kagel)

Nothing can prevent the wrong env if the DBA wants it wrong :-)

Paul Watson
Oninit www.oninit.com
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> On Aug 11, 2017, at 07:30, Art Kagel <art.kagel@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Paul:
>
> Yes, but that doesn't prevent a DBA from running oninit directly and
> bypassing the startup script. "The problem with making things foolproof is
> that fools are so devious!" Including this old fool.
>
> Art
>
> Art S. Kagel, President and Principal Consultant
> ASK Database Management
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>
>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 7:02 AM, Paul Watson <paul@oninit.com> wrote:
>>
>> In the case of TZ could you not just have a startup task that could test
>> for
>> the correct env and then go from there ?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Paul
>>
>> Paul Watson
>> Oninit www.oninit.com
>> +1 913 387 7529
>>
>> Oninit® is a Registered Trademark of Oninit LLC
>>
>>> On Aug 11, 2017, at 06:31, Art Kagel <art.kagel@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Fernando:
>>>
>>> Indeed the DBA could change something personal that can affect the
>> engine.
>>> I'm trying to prevent a real actual problem caused by someone (OK me)
>>> changing the TZ timezone in his personal environment.
>>>
>>> At all of my clients I have an environment file that mostly sets some
>>> personal aliases that I have become used to using, like "dir" for "ls
>>> -laF", emacs shell edit mode instead of vi mode, etc. I run this script
>>> manually when I am logged into a client's servers so only I have this
>>> environment. At this one site which is in US Central Time they run their
>>> servers on US Eastern time for historical reasons and applications depend
>>> on that timezone. A couple of years ago the timezone difference must have
>>> annoyed me and I set TZ to Central Time in my environment file. Recently
>> we
>>> had to bounce their production engine to fix a problem (open PMR). I
>>> bounced it manually using my environment. So, for several hours until we
>>> realized the problem and bounced it again, taking another 5 minute
>>> downtime, the server was running with the "wrong" timezone which caused
>>> application problems. This is what I am trying to avoid.
>>>
>>> So, there is now an oninit.sh script that sets the environment exactly to
>>> the desired one and calls the actual oninit with a full path
>>> ($INFORMIXDIR/bin/oninit). The "informix" environment has an alias for
>>> "oninit" that calls oninit.sh. The oninit.sh is placed in a bin directory
>>> outside of INFORMIXDIR so it is independent of version upgrades.
>>>
>>> My thanks to Daniel and everyone else on this discussion thread for
>> helping
>>> me get to a workable solution.
>>>
>>> Art
>>>
>>> Art S. Kagel, President and Principal Consultant
>>> ASK Database Management
>>> www.askdbmgt.com
>>>
>>> Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/
>>>
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>> am
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>>
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